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Razz and Jazz Sports Blog Daily Debate: With Three Straight Losses, What’s Wrong with the Knicks?

The New York Knicks have lost three-straight games and are 6-6 in the “Carmelo” era.  What’s wrong with the Knicks?


  1. CMR

    March 16, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    I haven’t seen the games during this last losing streak. But from the games I have seen, I think the Knicks still need more time to mesh, and they need some size, and defense. I don’t think this team as constructed is best suited to be a run and gun high scoring team. I think this team would fare better as a half court grind it out team.

    Billups is the prototype half court point guard, and Melo and A’mare are great scorers in the half court. I think the Knicks would be better with a coach that emphasizes defense. Former D’Antoni players have said that he can go weeks, without practicing defensive principles.

    That being said our main needs are a defensive presence in the paint, and I think a more well rounded coach.

  2. Matt

    March 16, 2011 at 4:30 pm

    There is nothing wrong with the Knicks that a year to gel together and some defensive practice won’t fix. People are acting like the Knicks are supposed to win a championship this year! Give it time. Carmelo just got here. He needs a preseason to mesh more. D’Antoni has to tweak the offense a little and find a way to play defense a lot. We are in the playoffs, lets be happy with that and stop all the what’s wrong with the Knicks talk. We are talking about the knicks and after all those years of never talking about them this is a treat. Let’s start to ask what’s wrong in another year or 2. The team is great as it is. We need a big man in the middle. Douglas is playing well so i am not as nervous about the point guard situation long term. Dwight Howard in the middle would bring a championship faster than Chris Paul at the point.

    Enjoy the playoffs. I think we might win or at least get close to winning the first round. after that it’s a wrap. I’m looking long term. This year is just for the fun of seeing what we could be not what we are now.

  3. Al M

    March 16, 2011 at 4:39 pm

    A bump in the road. Get aggressive in defense. The coach should show tapes of Van Gundy’s an Pat Riley’s Knicks. Get ready for the playoffs.

    • razzandjazzsports

      March 16, 2011 at 5:30 pm

      Al, GREAT points. Van Gundy and Riley would not stand for this type of defensive effort. KeiJuan, GREAT point, and Clyde made the point after the play I heard. Those are the defensive principals that need to be taught. Nets will be able to keep Williams if they continue to improve and add another player. Tiffany, I am not one of the greedy people who is talking about them winning a round in the playoffs, or even championships, but the defensive effort is saddening.

  4. razzandjazzsports

    March 16, 2011 at 4:47 pm

    I certainly agree that they need time to mesh, and I also agree that they will be a much better team offensively next season, when they have a chance to work together during the preseason, but defense is all about effort. They gave a great effort in Miami, but you lose twice to the Cavs, the team with the worst record in the league, and back-to-back games against the Indiana Pacers? Tyler H hasn’t looked this good since North Carolina, back-to-back career highs of 29, and 30? Giving up 35 points in the fourth quarter of a close game? Can’t happen. Charu, I agree, they need a better defensive effort, and size, and this team isn’t contructed to run. Riley adapted when he came to the Knicks, can D’Antoni? We will see. Matt, I agree with you on most things, but the defensive effort is what bothers me. Carmelo said, before playing the Cavs at the Garden, and Indiana yesterday, something about playing them back. That bothers me even more.

  5. KeiJuan "Keyez"

    March 16, 2011 at 4:52 pm

    Where to start… I think despite all the talk about playing defense, it is something that has not been committed to. Case in point, Shaun Williams played with Danny Granger and knows or should know he likes to go right. First thing you do should be force him left and double the ball out of his hands. Didn’t happen and the Knicks lost that game. Secondly, I am really wondering how much Billups has left in the gas tank. I know his heart, but what about his knee. Seems like the Knicks should think about there point guard dilema long term since there is no guarantee Derron Williams will leave the Nets.with how they are developing.

  6. Tiffany B.

    March 16, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    At least people are talking about the Knicks! I gave up on them many years ago, & actually watched a few of their games this season:) Happy they are getting it together & have some real players worth talking about. Go Melo, & I love what A’Mare has brought 2 the table!

  7. Matt

    March 16, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    I think it is all about the coach. D’Antoni coaching style is like he is coaching the all star game. No defense just run up and down and shoot. I didn’t like the hiring of him from day one. We will be exciting because as long as you outscore your opponent you will win but we can’t win with no defense. Riley and Van Gundy would coach the team differently. Riley is a great coach. He showed that by adjusting to the players he had when he came here. He didn’t have the run and gun show time team like he did in LA. He had a rough and tough damn near thuggish team of hoodlums that could play ball so he said let’s go out there and beat the hell out of people. D’Antoni is stubborn and won’t change from his offensive mindset. I still say give Mark Jackson a chance with this team. Either D’Antoni has to go or he has to get lucky and get Dwight howard to come here. 1 defensive minded all star player would change the culture overnight. We need that big man in the middle. We will still score 110 points but we would only give up 90.

    • razzandjazzsports

      March 16, 2011 at 6:10 pm

      I think D’Antoni would play Howard 30 minutes a game lol.

  8. Marc "Raz" Rasbury

    March 16, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    You cant treat defense like a necessary evil and play it when the spirit moves you. If the team is going put out efforts like they did in the back-to-back games vs. the Pacers, then it is going to be a short post season in Gothem regardless of how many points they score.

  9. cee oh da gooch

    March 16, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    One word – D’Antoni…..that’s what wrong with the Knicks. They need to gauge Jeff Van Gundy’s interest in returning to coaching and the Garden.

  10. Joe

    March 16, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    The Knicks are giving up too many 2nd shots to be a high-level basketball team. I think championship teams are those that do a great job on their defensive backboard.

    As for defensive intensity, I think it is more important that the other 3 players in the starting lineup bring the intensity. Amare and Carmelo are scorers who can affect the game by putting their opponents in foul trouble. I’m not saying that they should not play defense, but I don’t want to see game after game where they are sitting on the bench in foul trouble.

    Another point on defense is that it is rare in the history of the NBA to find players who are top 5 scorers, and also defensive stalwarts. Kobe, Jordan, Garnett and Duncan come to mind among contemporary ballplayers. Each of those guys are heading to the HOF. If Amare and Melo reach that level, then more the better for Knick fans like myself.

    Camby has the perfect skills for this team, but think about how few players there are who match Camby in rebounding and shot blocking.

    I will wait until next year before I criticize the direction of the team. They are so far ahead of where they were last year that I think it is unfair to criticize them at this point.

  11. Derrel Johnson

    March 16, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Great points Joe. This team will not win without being able to rebound the ball, and their best rebounder, Amar’e, is probably mediocre at best for his talent level. Jordan, Garnett, and possibly Duncan have all won Defensive Player of the Year previously, an award I’m sure Bill Gates would bet his fortune on won’t be won by Carmelo or Amar’e anything in their career. As we sat there last week Joe, watching them beat up the Hornets, would you have thought the Pacers, without Granger, would embarrass them a week later?

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